General discussion and observations about life in these United States. Topics include politics, economics, and general commentary.
The other day I was at work, having a good political debate with one of my coworkers that shall remain nameless, when the topic of poverty came up. The guy that I was talking with told me that there are lots of jobs out there and that people, especially those in the inner city (Detroit), should just go get jobs. He backed up his argument by saying that he is confident that if he lost his job that he would be reemployed within 2 weeks.
I agreed with him in the sense that of course he could go out and get a job pretty easily. He is a white, well educated, male with a car, an internet connection and a place to live in the suburbs where there are cars. All of these conditions are lacking for a siginificant portion of the inner city population. Now I dont claim to have lived in the inner city, or have come up through rough conditions or family life, but I know that it is a lot harder to just go get a job when you are lacking many resources.
I don't know that i can even come up with a solution, as it stands right now, it is a vicsious circle that lends itself to being very hard to break. First you are an undereducated black male without a car in an area of town where there is practically no employment to begin with. In my area, Detroit, there is no mass transit to get you to where the jobs are. You cannot expect someone to go through a 2 hour bus ride to go 30 miles just to have a minimum wage job. So the first problem is just getting to where there are jobs, even low paying ones. The second problem is that if you get there you are discriminated agasint becsue of your speech and your race, so your chances of getting the job are even lower. Plus, you lack the basic education needed to get even the lowest end job.
I am also not saying that it is impossible to break this cycle. With enough luck and determination I am sure that people accomplish much with those set of hinderances all the time. My contention is this. To say that people should just go out and get a job, is shortsighted, cruel, and basically impossible to justify, just going off your own life experiances.

Ideas, opinions and responses please......

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on Jan 25, 2005
I wish I could remember where I learned it, or even who said it, but it is true all the same:

"The only way to end poverty in a free society is to resist making it easier to be poor."

For the able bodied person, who is down on his luck, society should do little more than provide the most basic of necessities. Luxuries should be reserved for those who have the means to support them. If a person is unwilling to do whatever it takes to earn his way, society shouldn't be expected to make up the difference.



on Jan 26, 2005

Reply #14 By: Nebraskawoman - 1/25/2005 11:12:59 PM
Have any of you ever been unemployed for any period of time?
I have a degree but I have been unable to get a job because everywhere i've applied want experience but it is impossible to get experience unless someone hires you. I live in a rural area and cant monetarialy (forgive my spelling tonight. )afford to move several hours to the city to get a job there. I do have a car to get to work the problem is that there is no work available with the exception of fast food. Which of course will not pay for the gas to drive to work not to mention day care for my kids. So please unless you have been in their shoes dont judge.


Well since you asked the question, the answer is YES! So if I were you, *you* shouldn't be so quick to judge what we say! As there's a REAL possibility that we have been in their shoes.
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